[SLL] Linux training

[Michael]

Ken, you're the man. Thanks for all the detailed input.

We're located in Bellevue and using Fedora (and some OpenBSD). I found a
class at Lake WA TC that I think will probably work. I could find any
upcoming classes at any of the Seattle CC locales and didn't like the looks
of Gatlin. Bellevue CC had some classes but none on any schedule.

In response to Bill's comments, he will have a machine or two which he can
use for practice and I have a fair library of books which he can use as
well. Of course Google is probably easiest.

Thanks again everyone.

On 7/18/07, Ken Meyer <kmeyer at blarg.net> wrote:
>
> Jeremy moved to Texas, north of Fort Worth, some time ago -- alas.
>
> Michael, North Seattle CC has had good classes -- a series of 3, but you
> just missed the boat, as the instructor retired at the end of last
> quarter.
> Prospects for the future are murky. If you contacted the Dean of IT,
> Patricia Cheadle, to inquire, that might also encourage her to believe
> that
> there is a demand (she has a Business background and is not overly
> conversant with the details of IT that was a responsibility foisted on her
> in order to save the cost of an IT Dean.
>
>        PCheadle at sccd.ctc.edu
>
> To compound the misery, you also just missed a class given by Tim Maher,
> local expert in Perl and such.  These classes are excellent; I can attest
> from personal experience.  There is a utilities class coming up in August:
>
>        http://www.teachmeperl.com/consultix/sched.html#UNIX_Linux_Fun
>
> Depending on your guy's level of expertise, you might also find that
> having
> Tim hold his hand for awhile would be a good investment.
>
> Edmonds Community College has had classes for a long time (note that
> whenever you see "UNIX", the class is overwhelmingly likely to actually be
> taught on Linux systems
>
>        http://schedule.edcc.edu/search.php?d=11969&quarter=2
>
> I note that there is no instructor listed, which is a caveat, that I would
> enquire into.  Since this class is a "1", I assume that there is at least
> one more level offered; there used to be.
>
> There is a group that tries to act like a user group, but is apparently
> really a commercial operation.  It does Novell (i.e. SuSE) training that I
> cannot vouch for -- or not.  You didn't mention the distro you are using.
>
>        http://kaleidoscope-consulting.com/_wsn/page3.html
>
> Green River Community College also has a class in the Fall.  The
> instructor
> I know of has been around for a long time, but it isn't A Carter, as
> listed.
> Unfortunately, they appear to supply class schedule information only as a
> PDF of the entire catalog:
>
>        http://www.greenriver.edu/ClassSchedule/
>
> Of course, GRCC is way down in Auburn; you also didn't say where you are
> located.
>
> Bellevue has had a class, but I don't see it now.  Their Continuing Ed
> Division has offered UNIX (but I bet it's Linux) classes, with none
> scheduled at the moment.  Here is the link:
>
>
> http://at-campus.net/bcc2/ems/course/course.aspx?C=3442&pc=5&mc=97&sc=451
>
> You could also try the other Community and Technical Colleges in the area,
> such as Cascadia, Lake Washington TC, Renton TC, even Everett and Highline
> CC's, Bates and Clover Park CC's in Tacoma -- even UW Tacoma, depending on
> where your business or your employee's home is located.
>
> Shoreline Community College's Extended Learning operation offers an Online
> Course in LP1 Level certification.  There is no Fall schedule posted yet,
> but since these courses typically interface with a contracted pro, it's
> probably the same every quarter.
>
>        http://www.shoreline.edu/ce/Summer%202007/Linux.html
>
> South Seattle Community College offers what appears to be the same course;
> now I'm not sure whether the live human contact is local, or whether it's
> all farmed out to the Gatlin organization -- maybe to Bombay :-(
>
>        http://www.gatlineducation.com/southced/network.htm
>
> These classes are relatively expensive, as the so-called Extended Learning
> Branches of the CC's are purely business operations with no state subsidy,
> so they typically run 3-4X the cost of a "regular" credit CC course.  The
> Extended Learning
>
> You might also check with the commercial training outfits such as NetDesk,
> Horizon, whatever; I haven't kept track of which ones have survived.  They
> are probably even more expensive, and I have heard mixed reviews of
> instructor quality.  It would be good to see if one could sit in on a
> class
> or two by the applicable instructor before signing-up for the whole shot.
>
> As always, the critical thing is the instructor.  In the CC system at
> least,
> I have never been denied the request to sit in for a couple of classes
> before deciding to enroll or not, to scope both the level and the
> presentation.  Of course, if the class is at capacity, that may freeze you
> out, though there is a provision for instructors to accept "overloads" --
> doesn't work well if the capacity is limited by the available
> workstations,
> and that may not be relevant if you can bring a laptop and also access
> their
> network via wireless.  I don't think you will find these classes operating
> at capacity though.
>
> Actually, my biggest fear is that most of these classes may be too
> elementary for your guy; or that they won't get up to his level until far
> into the class sessions.
>
> Done.  Good luck.
>
> Ken Meyer
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: linux-list-bounces at ssc.com [mailto:linux-list-bounces at ssc.com]
> On Behalf Of Brian Lane
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:57 PM
> To: Michael
> Cc: linux-list at ssc.com
>
> Subject: Re: [SLL] Linux training
>
> Michael wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to get some linux training for one of my employees and can't
> > seem
> > to find any in the Seattle/Bellevue area. If checked Seattle/Bellevue CC
> > and
> > there don't seem to be any. He's got the absolute basics but I need him
> to
> > have some better skills and while we'll be doing OJT I wanted to see if
> > there was a program we could pay for. Can anyone through out some
> > suggestions for me?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Michael
> >
>
> Contact Jeremy Reed. I've never been to one of his classes, but he seems
> like a knowledgeable guy. his company is -
>
> http://www.pugetsoundtechnology.com/
>
> Brian
>
>