[SLL] OT warning--Comcast opt out

[Clifford Snow]

On Mon, 2007-07-16 at 16:21 -0700, Ken Meyer wrote:
> I'm not so sure about the restrictions you cite.
> 
> 1) The restrictions may apply when using MSN as your ISP, but Section 2(b)
> at the link (I can't seem to get Acrobat Reader to copy it out) says that,
> if you chose another ISP, you are subject to their rules and not the ones
> stated there.  I assume that would apply to running servers, and I know that
> Blarg makes you get a commercial account to run servers -- at least to make
> use of the conventional ports, I would assume.  But I haven't pored over
> this obnoxiously long document either.

I use ADOS out of Oregon.  They don't have any restriction, other than
don't do anything illegal, that I'm aware of.  I used Comcast, but don't
want to go back because of their poor service I received when using
their Internet service.  (Usually their email server would lose
messages.)  It would be nice to get 1.5Mb pricing without restrictions
from Qwest.

> 
> 2) I believe that Qwest is still operating their DSL service under the
> common carrier principles that govern their telephone service, which is to
> say, I pay to connect and do what I want with it (I suppose that they might
> be able to impose some data transfer limits).  Of course, they hate that,
> and rather than cable becoming a common carrier, since they still enjoy the
> laissez-faire treatment as an "entertainment service", the telcos want the
> cable providers' carte blanche freedom for themselves "to be fair"..
It makes sense that thier ISP rules wouldn't apply if you are just
getting dsl from them.  It is the connection to the internet that is
where all of the legal issues arise.  

Clifford