[SLL] OT warning--Comcast opt out

[Ken Meyer]

I'm not so sure about the restrictions you cite.

1) The restrictions may apply when using MSN as your ISP, but Section 2(b)
at the link (I can't seem to get Acrobat Reader to copy it out) says that,
if you chose another ISP, you are subject to their rules and not the ones
stated there.  I assume that would apply to running servers, and I know that
Blarg makes you get a commercial account to run servers -- at least to make
use of the conventional ports, I would assume.  But I haven't pored over
this obnoxiously long document either.

2) I believe that Qwest is still operating their DSL service under the
common carrier principles that govern their telephone service, which is to
say, I pay to connect and do what I want with it (I suppose that they might
be able to impose some data transfer limits).  Of course, they hate that,
and rather than cable becoming a common carrier, since they still enjoy the
laissez-faire treatment as an "entertainment service", the telcos want the
cable providers' carte blanche freedom for themselves "to be fair"..

There was a federal proposal to apply carte blanche to new construction of
fiber links by the telcos, but I don't know whether it was adopted, or is
still wrapped around the net neutrality axle that has stymied the
Stevens/Young Evil Axis attempt to run off with the telecom ball.

Ken Meyer


-----Original Message-----

From: linux-list-bounces at ssc.com [mailto:linux-list-bounces at ssc.com]On
Behalf Of Glenn Stone
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 1:50 PM
To: linux-list at ssc.com
Subject: Re: [SLL] OT warning--Comcast opt out


On Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 01:17:47PM -0700, Clifford Snow wrote:
>On Mon, 2007-07-16 at 10:09 -0700, Glenn Stone wrote:
>
>> Like the Verizon stuff, Qwest "comes with" MSN, but the DSL folks were
quite
>> open about the fact that once I got online, I could feel free to ignore
>> that... :)
>Glen,
>Can you run a web site and email server with Qwest/MSN?  Right now I'm
>using a 3 party isp, but the way Qwest prices services, it cost double
>what the Qwest/MSN connection cost.  It doesn't seem fair, but my
>complaining isn't going to change that.

You may not "offer public information services" on a Qwest residential line.
IANAL, but that sounds like to me that you can do email but not web.  SSH in
any event isn't public; that's the whole point.  Chat rooms are verboten.
You may otherwise run a server, personal or commercial.

Full agreement here:
http://www.qwest.com/legal/highspeedinternetsubscriberagreement/files/HSI_Su
bscriber_Agreement_ENG_v8_030107-.pdf

I would go with a third party web hosting company like DreamHost; they have
the 24x7 uptime thing going which a residential DSL line can't possibly
beat, and it's pretty cheap.

-- Glenn