[SLL] All my 64bit Ubuntu's stopped booting...so far my 32bit UbuntuME still goes

Mr.Scrooge maximilian_bianco at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 20 17:31:34 PST 2007


I like the dialog going back and forth. This is why i get on mailing lists. Just one question.
Does anyone know if the problem has been resolved? I know there was talk of reinstalling, which
BTW i think is not the way to go unless time is a huge factor. 
--- Robert Woodcock <rcw at blarg.net> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 12:30:47PM -0800, Chuck Wolber wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Dec 2007, Howard Gibson wrote:
> > >    With my Linux boxes, I have a three hour rule.  If I cannot fix a 
> > > Linux box in well below three hours, I reformat the root partition and 
> > > re-install everything.  The Linux install takes three hours.  The beauty 
> > > of Free Software is that I have the install media, and there are no 
> > > licensing issues.
> >
> > [...]
> > 
> > 1. Persist with a problem, solve it once and then push a fix (or 
> > suggestion) upstream. Even if the OSS project ignores your input, Google 
> > will make sure it's available to others.
> > 
> > 2. If you don't solve it in 3 hours, reinstall and don't waste time making 
> > the community aware of the problem.
> 
> Also, regardless of what software you are using, there are some truisms at
> work:
> 
> * Computers are deterministic. They will do the same thing every time,
>   regardless of whether that thing is correct or incorrect.
> 
> * If the software is violating the principle of least surprise, THAT IS A
>   BUG in the software.
> 
> * Software is full of bugs. For large pieces of software such as Linux or
>   Windows plus a usable set of applications, you're talking about several
>   hundred thousand known, reported, documented bugs and probably well over a
>   million ones that you're lucky enough to be the very first one to find.
> 
> * A lot of bugs are triggered only under certain circumstances (hopefully
>   the ones that were triggered under all circumstances were caught in
>   testing - but don't count on that either.)
> 
> * If you do a reinstall, the software you are reinstalling contains the same
>   set of bugs which will get triggered if you recreate those same
>   circumstances.
> 
> * Those circumstances may or may not include the versions of other programs
>   the software interfaces with, the configuration the software is using, the
>   way the user is doing a particular task, etc.
> 
> By choosing to reinstall, you're saying to yourself one of two things:
> 
> * I so totally botched my config files/registry/whatever that reconfiguring
>   it over from scratch *has* to result in something my software can make
>   better sense of than any manual fix I could make.
> 
> * My hardware is unstable, and if I blindly overwrite something that's
>   corrupted with a known good copy, maybe it'll stay uncorrupted until the
>   right person reads my resume.
> -- 
> Robert Woodcock - rcw at blarg.net
> "The negative character of thermodynamics laws does nothing but stifle and
> discourage creative and inventive minds from the quest for perpetual motion
> machines."
> 	-- Ken Amis
> 



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