helps if I post the link :) http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/01/31/1912213&mode=thread -- Glenn R. Stone, gstone at pogolinux.com | .~. Geek by Nature RHCE, Technoshaman, Linux and other Mysteries | / V \ -------------- Linux Systems Engineer, Pogo Linux, Redmond, WA | /( )\ Linux by Choice http://www.pogolinux.com +1 888 828 POGO x425 | ^^-^^